HTC HD2 Forum

a lot of you here have the phone already now and there are alot of people checking the forum for information.
thought it would be a good idea if you folks would post here with your personal pros and cons of the phone.

i know this is HTCHD2Forum.com but try keep an open mind with your cons list lol.

also post any other experience you feel you'd like to post, such as... the phone size affecting getting it in and out of your pocket.

Still getting to grips with it, but a few initial thoughts.

Pro's:

Fast - almost no lag on switching applications, very fast rendering of web pages and quick to locate gps satellites.

Gorgeous screen that works well in bright light as well as inside.

Works beautifully with Windows office and outlook

Cons:

Camera - image quality is just acceptable and lack of a dedicated shutter button is an annoyance

Price.

Mixed:

Size - great for two handed operation, awkward one-handed.

Applications - plenty out there but they need searching for - windows marketplace is not great

I agree about applications - WM apps used to be plentiful and varied (although you had to search for them) there are not many apps now optimised for HD2's WVGA capacitive non stylus interface. A lot of my old useful WM apps are virtually unusable on the HD2. Apple's store has shown how it should be done!

Having said that, this phone is a real pleasure to use - especially if you like (and are able) to customise the interface to suit the way you work rather than be forced to work according to someone else's interface (like iPhone).

I trust and hope that HTC will be able to upgrade this phone to WM 7. Rumour has it that this will be the case.

I think it's quite unfair comparing the iPhone's appstore to the Windows marketplace. Remember that the appstore is all aimed for one type of touchscreen, one general speed of processing, one resolution and one phone. The Windows range of apps has to cater for phones dating back to 2000 and as such, are not made for touchscreens, and even recently made for solely resistive touchscreens or the mixture of resistive and hardware keys.

Bear in mind this is the first capacitive WinMo phone, and especially the first with a 4.3inch WVGA screen.

fair point, but the fact still remains that the apps for iphone are better and more than the winmo phones.

Better is subjective. If you wish to be productive, then Windows Mobile apps are superior, as it is, at heart, a business-centric OS. If you want entertainment apps, the iPhone apps are superior as it as an entertainment-centric phone.

Also, there are actually more programs for WinMo than for the iPhone.

I agree with Sunil237.  Applications for windows mobile do not compare with the Iphone/touch apps.  Just to clear the air I have used Windows Mobile PDA-Pocketpc-Windows Mobile Phones for over 10 years dating back to when Ipaq was the most popular PDA.  I have also had an Apple Touch for the past year and we have to be honest…the apps are great.  Iphone/Touch do have their drawbacks one of which is the control Steve has on the O/S; maybe he hasn’t learned from the Macintosh (had one of those too).   All and all HTC’s HD2 outperforms the Iphone but apps are the name of the game.  Come on Windows Mobile developers….please take advantage of the HD2 specifications and build better apps.  Don’t be so concerned that there aren’t that many devices on the market that match the HD2 specifications:  If you build them they will come.

Hated it!
Sent it back after 5 days. Camera quality was appalling, using flash everyone had blue faces.
Screen just too oversensitive if you just move it, yet other times unresponsive.
Texting was a nightmare, I'm on call 24/7 and you cant reply to texts while in Tesco shopping for example , I'm too busy to have to use 2 hands to text!
Difficult to switch between applications without closing all screens and starting again.
Doesnt give the option to select whether you want to connect wifi or contract, just does it, and would cost a fortune abroad if you didn't watch the connection symbols - my Nokia asks you first.

Doesn't actually do anything my beloved N95 does, apart from a big screen with weather pictures that cant update your location - always unavailable. I went to Middleton on Sea one evening and remained there for 3 days with phone showing snow and it was brilliant sunshine!

The final straw was when I deleted my emails from my phone and they deleted from my pc too!!!! My Nokia asks if you want to delete from phone or phone and server, but not this one, oh no, just delete without warning! What a nightmare!

Cant wait for my Nokia N900

@cortina61: although some of your cons against the phone are valid for you, the rest are simple settings. I believe you didn't explore the phone to such an extent that you would find the settings to make it the way you want.

Sounds like to me that you wanted a perfect phone out of the box, which isn't the case for a windows phone. It comes with a lot of default settings and customization is one of the most important activities you do with a windows phone after purchase. The fact that it allows this kind of customization is actually one of its selling points.

Enjoy your n900.

well maybe, but putting a decent user guide in the box would have helped!
And at the price,well sorry but I do think it should work straight out the box. Its supposed to be a business orientated phone, busy business people have better things to do than faff around.
In the few days I had it I had to do a soft reset and then re enter all my email settings, wifi etc  again.
Never ever had to do anything like that before with any other phone, nor have my colleagues.
Seems to be a lot of new firmware and fixes, sorry, but if it don't work, don't release it.

@cortina61: I understand your frustration with the phone but a windows phone is not for everybody. What i mean is that the regular owner of such a phone is rather a poweruser. It requires more tweaking and more time discovering the phone. If you do not like that, its your choice. get a phone that "gets you" :)

Maybe I was lucky - but my phone worked (and has continued to work) perfectly out of the box. Setting up all connections (email, wifi etc ) took no more than 15 minutes. I have applied all of the hot fixes issued by HTC, but do not feel the need to apply the new ROM (1.48) I am still on 1.43, as it is working very well.
I have been using it since early December, and it is a pleasure to use.

@ntsiotinos I have the same experience. Its a joy using it. I can't wait for a rom with opera 10 and flash 10.1 integrated. It will be wild!!!

Well? My experiences with phone are "0".All I have to say is all I have to deal with is some members on forum, making fun of poor Quig, cause he can't get "1" yet!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  I'll get even!!  jk, lol, just joking, I will get you guys!!! :o :o :o :o

i have got "1" :p
ordered about 24 hours ago and arrived a few hours ago, i just arrived though so now i can play :)

first thoughts;
nicely packaged.
happy to get case and 2gb card in pack, even though it wasn't stated.
the back case could have had a simpler way of opening, ok more complicated but easier is what i mean. i felt like i would scratch it if i tried too hard, but it didn't.
the extra void sticker they left in my box incase i wanted to send it back and say i didn't open it was a nice gesture :S lol.
the headphones feel good, but i'm going to be using my head phones i think to listen to stuff, just because they are a decent set of headphones.
i like the charging light in the top mesh bar rather than under the glass, good idea.

i'll update once i play around

 ::) ::) "OH"" I'm so happy for "you", You are "1" of the people that better watch out!! Hope you enjoy "your" phone!!  " watch your back!! lmao , j/k, I will get even,"" no j/k""", lol, Have great time, keep me updated, please,, Quig :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( : >:(

lol "watch your back", are you in the uk? :D jk soon quiggy you'll have one. i had/have a k800i for the past 3 years now. i deserve this :)

UK?  Is that by The Perrine bridge in Twin Falls? Idaho, USA? lol, have fun, want to know everything!!  Quig Ur bud??? :P :P :P :P

my iphone using sister-inlaw just came in and started to insult it.
give me 5 mins while i put my phone next to hers, turn on youtube and see the difference :p

Enjoy. Please tell us which country you are using it in and what rom etc.thanks

uk rom 1.48.


... the connection isn't standard micro usb :( the connection type may be but the port is a different shape i can't just plug in my regular usb cables in there, i have to use the one supplied by htc which is a bit annoying.

I think that the cables that you had were probably mini, not micro. HD2  uses standard micro usb. Like nexus one and a lot of the latest new phones.

 >:( i have to use the one supplied by htc which is a bit annoying!  :o :o :o yes, I find you alot annoying!! lmao, motorola, & htc have gone pretty much to micro usb.   ur bud??? Quig

joking? lol

mini and micro... **** why!! o well.. i'll try to calm my self lol

Just happy to see more users get their hands on HD2  :D
What i like the most with it? The way it can be modded, its amazing...but i would have to be honest and say that the standard layout are one of the best, just install a few much needed apps and its ready to go  8)

some apps are annoying though, and result in awkward use of the phone. it is hard to get the right selection of apps which all mesh together nicely.

takes some time to learn how to set up the phone but once it is done... it is done well :) sooooo many things to do (from that hints and tips list on xda) but with easy walk throughs which i think even quig can follow :D

1 bad thing... mine is  afinger print magnet!!! right now. maybe because it is new, i don't know.

using the supplied pouch helps with fingerprints - a little.....

i think it was mainly because it was brand new, lot less finger prints now.

and the case.... lol i actually like it now i'm glad i got it in the pack :)

Sunil237 Quote:  "" but with easy walk throughs which i think even quig can follow """

Ha Ha Ha he He, You are not funny!! lmao  ;D >:( >:(
I'm getting it, soon I hope, going to ask all my "buds" the easy steps to set-up!!
I'm tech-challenged, "Bad" ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Helped make the package heavier, yes. I downloaded the 310 page user guide from htc's site before I even got the package.  Simples.

I'll raise your K800i with my W800i that, as of yesterday, decided not to take a charge any more (must have heard the HD2 had arrived).

RIP W800i, you were fantastic and you're now framed - no recycling pit of doom for you old buddy.

... you know what... i love my k800i.
even though i have my hd2 my k800 has been with me anyway, and i haven't used my hd2 for any calls or text yet :S idiot? i just don't want to cheat on my k800i while she still has my number lol

I've had the phone for over a week now and had the number ported a week ago.

pros;

• huge screen - for watching things and internet surfing
• fast, on the rare occasion it gives a loading sign.
• finger friendly, if you click something.. you click it.
• massively customisable. almost every aspect is customisable
• if something goes wrong due to customising, simply remove what messed it up and usually that will fix it.
• doesn't feel heavy, the weight feels good in the hand/hands.
• excellent video quality (if you use a good converter, see the step-by-step guide for one)
• can play Lemmings!!
• also can have emulator for gba, snes, ps1, few more. not played on them but they do work.
• the phone is something chuck norris would be proud to own.
• iPhone users are jealous.. they cling to their app store which will give you 1488 programs to calculate.
• good battery, although my friend claims his iphone lasts 5 days without charge (what's that smell..) i think the 2 days i get from the hd2 is good lol.
• msn.... good for boring times

cons;

• big screen... yes pro and con. i find it slightly hard to use this device in a single hand, but i am getting more and more used to it.
• it is a steep learning curve to getting to grips with the phone and customising it. there are many guides but they expect you to know the basics.(i'm trying to keep mine as simple as what i wanted when i started)
• apps, there are loads of free apps online but alot have been created for previous windows versions and developers haven't created outstanding apps YET! (although there are a few)
• if you were a spy and needed to get someones fingerprint, give them this phone you will have all their prints.... finger print magnet :p requires a quick wipe to clean but i'd prefer to not have to bother.
• i'm scared i will drop it! i don't know why i am just scared lol
• annoyingly loves to connect to 3g. if you aren't on an internet plan it can get costly, so there are fixes for it.
• arrived with a small 2gb sd card.. which is basically useless to me if i want to put a load of tv shows on there.
• don't like the music player, although i love my mp3 player so i wouldn't have switched anyway.
• like and don't like the hard keys. love the metal and feel of them, but the light doesn't shine through evenly, so the finish isn't that great with lights on.
• the keyboard installed isn't that great. BUT swype is fantastic! google it :)
• i would have liked the volume keeps to be different (not sure how, just not as they are)
• would have liked the ports to be on top as you can't use the phone in bed while on charge in up-right view.

My first impression was really amazing. When I was starting to pull out from the box and the device has no end and was bigger and bigger it was georgeous. The first button pressed and the same feeling was continued. Then i wanted to try synchronization with pc and synchro my contacts with outlook. No problem, everything  went well, but I had to updated the operating system in pc, I was able to complete synchro. One weird thing have to describe here: dont understand why when I press END CALL button not only screen goes black but also HD2 is disconnecting from the pc. The screen onto phone have to be always on, though the level of backlight is pretty low. Never mind, im sure that it can be adjustable somewhere in registry.
Another software issues has appeared in menu. In music player i wanted to adjust speaker level but when i was trying it third time icons of spakers level suddenly disappeared and  pops up no more until I was restarted phone.
Some typing errors i have made when i was typing on the software keyboards. I used the handwriting on my old SE W950i, and I do commend it here too. I will use it here much often than software keyboards. It is well done on my oppinion.
In the whole, after 24 hours i have to evaluet it as wonderfull device with some small bugs (but, what does not it have).
Enjoy all yours devices.


P.S. Oh i forgot
message above was writing on notebook, cause we had an energy reparation. So my usuall internet connection didnt work and i was connecting from HTC HD2 t-mobile internet all the time. Awesome and great.

oo it is true the light stays on during sync, i always found that to be a bit stupid. if you find a way around it please post up in the app section, or step-by-step guides if it is editing the registry :)

I've had mine for a month now, likes are:
Screen size, just amazing
Speed - very good, no delays in switching apps
HTC touch - great on a windows mobile platform (probably requires the power of this proccessor and RAM to be seamless)
weight - has a real meaty feel

Cons - As everyone has said, lack of apps that take advantage of the power and features of the phone (Apple have really led the way here)
Battery life - not great ( you will need to recharge daily)
Cost, I know this is the ultimate in the current range of phones, but if they want to give the iphone a run for it's money then price would be a good starting point
Lack of offical updates, especially here in the UK

What really convinced me though was showing the phone to my brother (a graphic designer, so a real Apple follower), he started off by calling it an Iphone wannabee, but then got impressed by the screen resolution and size, but what changed his mind was the many of the Iphone features, and then still have the abilty to swap the 16 gig sd card.

Overall I'm not at all dissapointed with the phone, but would possibly hold back on buying it now to see if would be possible to get it with WM7

I have been using this phone more than two months. My response is simply Wow. I like everything in this phone except

1. the raised camera lens,
2. lack of power button on the top,
3. no dedicated camera shutter key,
4. keyboard software, and
5. most importantly it has M$ WinMo (which sucks).

I agree, also 1 thing that irritates me is the glare from the screen. It didn't bother me much before but as time goes on it is annoying. I tried to get a anti-glare screen protector but the ebay company are being ****s.

Wouldn't that pretty much kill any possibility of a docking unit?  Does any phone have ports on top?

I have a Nokia 5800 at the moment, that has the ports at the top and it's a PITA.

dock it upside down :D

but then I'd have to stand on my head to do anything with it ;) :P

Duh?  Or turn the dock upside down!!  lmao, we are pretty smart guys? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

But, but, but If I did that, I'd need another dock to make the phone stand up properly cos with the dock upside down and plugged into the top it would fall over  :o ;D ;D ;D

Well, DUH! can't have everything!  ::) ::)  anonymous member   ??? ??? ???

Quig if your HD2 was as fast as mine you would want to get a cradle like this to hold it in.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-3275490461959_2093_1536544461 (http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-3275490461959_2093_1536544461)

 :o :o :o :o WOW  :o :o :o :o :o

Hi I'm new to the forum, and the phone but lovin both. It was a huge decision for me to choose this over the Iphone 3GS and after just over a week and a steep learing curve I am blown away buy it. Yes there are a couple of tiny gripes, it's taken me this long to feel comfortable with it, but that's cos it's my first smart phone more than anything. I was so close last week to swapping it for a 3GS until I discovered this forum and now after a little tweaking it does everything I want it to do. I'm sure over time he apps library will grow, most of the ihone apps that all my mates have shown me are useless gimmicks anyway, (granted there are one or two I wish I could get.) But anyway - that's my overview from an inexperienced smart phone user, after weeks of deliberation I'm very happy and it now seems like a "no brainer" to choose this over the 3GS.

Great, glad you like it, enjoy phone, & forum,,,Quig

hi guys i am a newbie around here.i am from India and i have got a HTC HD2.my personal experience with the fone is just great.they cell is just amazing i luv it a lot. there is almost nothing to complain about the fone just for the following things

1) the battery life on my hd2 just sucks :'( if i use it the way i used to use my other cell the battery would die down in just half a day i think.this maybe because of the large screen resolution.i have decreased the brightness of the screen but than to not of much help if some u guys can HELP!!!! ??? me with this problem.

2)this problem i think is a prob with everyone having this fone the MARKETPLACE.so nothing much to talk about this thing..

but overall a really great cell.love having one ;D.and it has become much better now after joining this forum.thanks alot guys for all the post of customizing the cell

Hi, glad you joined us, hope you enjoy phone, & forum... Battery is issue for several, ck battery saving tips in search box. My big thing is make sure shut down programs when done,, Quig

hey quig i am also glad to join you guys.and i am already enjoying the phone as well as the forum before joining in i didt have any idea that i can do so much of modifications to my hd2 all thanks to you guys i know what can be done.and i keep a check that i close all the apps when i am done than to hope there is some solution in near future for the battery problem..thanks ;) ;D

hey Quig by the one question i heard that hd2 wont be able to run the upcoming windows 7.is this true ? ???...do you have any idea will it run on hd2 or no..waiting for ur reply

Glad you are enjoying phone & forum. I can't take any credit for tech stuff, I'm really tech dumb, but these guys, especially "Agoattamer" has made my phone fantastic!! Don't be shy, jump in search,ask, help, make friends, we have great site,,,,thanks to all the great members!!   Quig

All over the forum and xda developers. NO WP7 on the HD2. Only way is if someone ports it from xda-developers.

PROS: It's not an iPhone.
CONS: It doesn't work.

Thousands of users would disagree with you I'm afraid.

You're certainly entitled to your own opinion but to dismiss it with a sweeping statement of "It doesn't work" is completely wrong and misleading.

Thousands? I think its way more than that.

You're right. I said it doesn't work - and that's wrong. It kinda sometimes works, but other times it just shits itself. The incessant 'Cannot Connect' is damn annoying, because even if I'm okay with not being on the net because the phone forgot how to dial up, it will keep informing me every 3 seconds, putting text boxes over whatever I'm doing (which includes checking my internet settings).

I am still holding hope that I got a dud handset, because mine is massively annoying, as detailed here:
http://www.harrykey.com/blogs/the-htc-hd2-review-demon-phone/ (http://www.harrykey.com/blogs/the-htc-hd2-review-demon-phone/)

I have been using IMATE window mobiles and I thought they were poor but I was yet to use the HD2. I saw it and loved it and AFTER I have used it there is nothing I hate more. It is the the most irritable phone I have ever used and the LAST Windows Mobile I am going to use.
  This instrument needs to be reset atleast once everyday. It would not synchronize with my Desk top from the moment I bought it, had to take it to a service centre within a day to sort the problem, which was just temporary. aLL THEY COULD DO WAS DO A FACTORY (HARD) RESET. It still stops syncronising suddenly any time and have to soft reset it again to make it work.
  The SMS messages stops going out all of a sudden. It just stays in the OUTBOX.
  Touch screen is too sensetive
  Hangs up without any reason and have to reset it again.
  The HELP LINE guys have no idea about the phone and the service centers are also only able to PITY me.

 STRONGLY RECOMMED TO ALL ---NEVER NEVER BUY THIS PHONE.

Well, sorry you didn't like hd2, & your experience did not sound good at all!!  I imagine your with tmobile, or o2?  Anyway, This has been the best phone I have ever had, not 1 hard re-set, few soft,then got that fixed. for months now, been working flawless. Hope you find something that you like,,,,,Quig